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#2277844 16-Jul-2019 17:47

Hitting A Pothole In A Tesla Cost NZD $3,860

"The Tesla Model 3 Performance is an exceptional performing vehicle, it's fast, fun, and full of new tech. I took my Model 3 for a 3,200 KM road trip, and on that journey, all was going well. That is, until we hit a pothole. If you can believe it, a single pothole cost over NZD $3,860 to fix, and required 7 hours of time from start to finish, leaving the Tesla service center.

While Tesla isn't to blame here, low profile tires are becoming the new trend, and they're not any good in my book. They're expensive, heavy, and cause ride quality to suffer, all for what some feel is improved aesthetics, and perhaps some slightly more responsive steering. But the Model 3 Performance only offers one wheel size, so tires with less than 5 cm between the wheel and the road are the only option. Do any of you have low profile tires? How has your experience been?"

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#2277847 16-Jul-2019 17:52

I've got 265/40/R22 on my road car (SUV) and 185/60/R13 on my toy car. I tried 15" wheels on my 7 and it handled and felt a lot worse. I would get smaller wheels for my SUV if I could even though it spends approximately zero time off sealed surfaces :-)

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#2277899 16-Jul-2019 19:02

kingdragonfly: Hitting A Pothole In A Tesla Cost NZD $3,860

"The Tesla Model 3 Performance is an exceptional performing vehicle, it's fast, fun, and full of new tech. I took my Model 3 for a 3,200 KM road trip, and on that journey, all was going well. That is, until we hit a pothole. If you can believe it, a single pothole cost over NZD $3,860 to fix, and required 7 hours of time from start to finish, leaving the Tesla service center.

While Tesla isn't to blame here, low profile tires are becoming the new trend, and they're not any good in my book. They're expensive, heavy, and cause ride quality to suffer, all for what some feel is improved aesthetics, and perhaps some slightly more responsive steering. But the Model 3 Performance only offers one wheel size, so tires with less than 5 cm between the wheel and the road are the only option. Do any of you have low profile tires? How has your experience been?"

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#2278026 17-Jul-2019 06:57

White has just become the default colour, but it's pearl not simple.

An aspect of the NZ site has also been corrected - previously stated that what was effectively the LR AWD could get you from 0-100 km/h in 3.4s. Would be interesting if someone bought LR AWD previously and took Tesla on for false advertising.

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#2278128 17-Jul-2019 09:28

Hadn't noticed the Long Range AWD. Last I looked it was only possible to order the Standard Range RWD and the Performance model.

Now you can choose between Standard Range RWD, Long Range AWD and Performance AWD.

Another new thing is that you can order the white interior for the Performance model.

I wonder if they will make further changes soon.

In Norway you can order the Standard Range RWD with premium 19" rims instead of the standard aero rims, white interior, and with those options the price is around 69,000 NZD (EVs are excluded from GST in Norway, so that is part of the price difference).

Find it strange that there are so few options for the Standard Range version in NZ.

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#2278131 17-Jul-2019 09:36

paulchinnz:

White has just become the default colour, but it's pearl not simple.

An aspect of the NZ site has also been corrected - previously stated that what was effectively the LR AWD could get you from 0-100 km/h in 3.4s. Would be interesting if someone bought LR AWD previously and took Tesla on for false advertising.

What was offered before was the P3D-, not the LR AWD. It has all the same hardware as the performance upgrade, but without the suspension, spoiler, wheels or brakes. The LR AWD on the other hand doesn't have the same performance motors as the P3D- so it's a bit slower but it gains range. As such, the performance times they had there before was correct and it's now correct again for the config on offer.

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#2278149 17-Jul-2019 09:46

When there were only two variants available (a week ago), the performance was $94000 (iirc), now it is $101000 and the long range 4WD is $94000. Different base specs maybe?
The paint thing is interesting. White is now the no additional cost colour and black is +$1200. Did someone at the factory find a couple of hundred drums of white sitting out the back or something? I know Tesla aim to be disruptive with their marketing, but as I buyer I want to know why something costs more.

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#2278151 17-Jul-2019 09:54

Dingbatt: When there were only two variants available (a week ago), the performance was $94000 (iirc), now it is $101000 and the long range 4WD is $94000. Different base specs maybe?

The Perfomance model can no longer be bought without the upgrades I mentioned above. If you added the upgrade previously it came to the same figure.

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#2278278 17-Jul-2019 13:43

Obraik:

paulchinnz:

White has just become the default colour, but it's pearl not simple.

An aspect of the NZ site has also been corrected - previously stated that what was effectively the LR AWD could get you from 0-100 km/h in 3.4s. Would be interesting if someone bought LR AWD previously and took Tesla on for false advertising.

What was offered before was the P3D-, not the LR AWD. It has all the same hardware as the performance upgrade, but without the suspension, spoiler, wheels or brakes. The LR AWD on the other hand doesn't have the same performance motors as the P3D- so it's a bit slower but it gains range. As such, the performance times they had there before was correct and it's now correct again for the config on offer.

I hadn't realised the LR AWD motors were different to P motors. I've read (albeit just from owners, as opposed to Tesla officials) they are same motors but because of lack of other hardware such as spoiler, LR AWD is unable to do 0-100km/h in 3.4s, either because a) it's not safe (e.g. software neutered motors) or b) it just physically can't.

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#2278300 17-Jul-2019 14:05

paulchinnz:

I hadn't realised the LR AWD motors were different to P motors. I've read (albeit just from owners, as opposed to Tesla officials) they are same motors but because of lack of other hardware such as spoiler, LR AWD is unable to do 0-100km/h in 3.4s, either because a) it's not safe (e.g. software neutered motors) or b) it just physically can't.

Yeah, Tesla has never officially confirmed anything, but it's assumed that they do binning on the motors. If they test under a certain thermal threshold then they go to the Performance configs, otherwise they go to the RWD/AWD variants.

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#2278443 17-Jul-2019 16:38

I finally went in and checked the Auckland showroom on the weekend, along with Better Half so I didn't do something stupid like immediately sign up for a Model 3 order.

It's a nice setup and the rep I spoke to was pleasantly non-pushy and answered all our questions. I might decide to at least do a test drive, has anyone here done one of those?

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#2278462 17-Jul-2019 16:45

Guilliman: I finally went in and checked the Auckland showroom on the weekend, along with Better Half so I didn't do something stupid like immediately sign up for a Model 3 order. It's a nice setup and the rep I spoke to was pleasantly non-pushy and answered all our questions. I might decide to at least do a test drive, has anyone here done one of those?

It's one of the good things about Tesla changing the way cars are sold and getting rid of that pushy attitude that comes from having a commission based salary for their sales team.

There are no RHD Model 3's in NZ yet but if the UK is anything to go by the first shipment will include a few cars that are available for the media and test drives. You can register for a test drive here to put yourself in the queue, but I wouldn't expect that to happen until after August

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#2278466 17-Jul-2019 16:56

Before I get a response saying I'm a Tesla hater, I'm not. On a good day, Elon's exciting. However on a bad day, he's exasperating.

Like everyone, he has some serious personality flaws.

Tesla workers say they used electrical tape in Model 3 production

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#2278543 17-Jul-2019 18:27

kingdragonfly: Before I get a response saying I'm a Tesla hater, I'm not. On a good day, Elon's exciting. However on a bad day, he's exasperating.

Like everyone, he has some serious personality flaws.

Tesla workers say they used electrical tape in Model 3 production

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Looking under the hood to check for issues eh? They're going to be surprised when they see the whole engine is missing ;)

While I'm sure there's some substance to the reports, based on CNBCs history on reporting of Tesla I can't help but feel they're looking for an issue that doesn't actually exist. If Tesla is doing as they say they're doing and doing QA on the cars after they get through the production line and taking care of these issues then is it really an issue? Is this actually an unusual thing that doesn't happen at other car companies or are CNBC trying to make a Tesla story as they've got a history of doing?

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#2278548 17-Jul-2019 18:32

Obraik:

kingdragonfly: Before I get a response saying I'm a Tesla hater, I'm not. On a good day, Elon's exciting. However on a bad day, he's exasperating.

Like everyone, he has some serious personality flaws.

Tesla workers say they used electrical tape in Model 3 production

Engadget

Looking under the hood to check for issues eh? They're going to be surprised when they see the whole engine is missing ;)

While I'm sure there's some substance to the reports, based on CNBCs history on reporting of Tesla I can't help but feel they're looking for an issue that doesn't actually exist. If Tesla is doing as they say they're doing and doing QA on the cars after they get through the production line and taking care of these issues then is it really an issue? Is this actually an unusual thing that doesn't happen at other car companies or are CNBC trying to make a Tesla story as they've got a history of doing?

I'd agree with you. The best news is news that picks on big companies. Tall Poppy Syndrome.

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