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#3184407 20-Jan-2024 14:14

heavenlywild:

My understanding is the long range doesn't use LFP batteries so best to avoid at all costs.

Is 'at all costs' a fairly extreme statement that holds up under scrutiny? On that basis one would currently be pretty limited as to which EVs one could buy. Other chemistries do come with their own problems, but I'd have thought for many people they're manageable (eg, only charging above 80% when the range is needed).

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#3184411 20-Jan-2024 14:28

Yeah I went a bit far there, got too excited.

I guess if you are spending that kind of coin you don't really want old tech. Considering you would only want to charge to 90% the purpose of buying a long range based on current battery tech becomes contradictory.

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#3184419 20-Jan-2024 14:41

heavenlywild:
Yeah I went a bit far there, got too excited.

I guess if you are spending that kind of coin you don't really want old tech. Considering you would only want to charge to 90% the purpose of buying a long range based on current battery tech becomes contradictory.

If you need the range it’s useful. I commute Auckland to Hamilton 3 days a week and our LFP doesn’t quite cut it. I can comfortably do it in my Y performance and keep it between 20 and 80% and when I need to travel further charge more. LFP doesn’t suit my use case.

Additional range was also handy during peak holiday periods when road tripping as didn’t need to stop and charge. For $10k extra over the SR that’s real good value on a long range.

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#3184448 20-Jan-2024 16:24

heavenlywild:

Yeah I went a bit far there, got too excited.

I guess if you are spending that kind of coin you don't really want old tech. Considering you would only want to charge to 90% the purpose of buying a long range based on current battery tech becomes contradictory.

It's not really a case of "old vs new" tech but rather the best tool for the job. LFP doesn't yet have the best energy to weight ratio, so getting the same range from LFP would require a heavier pack than what can be achieved with NMC.

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#3198735 22-Feb-2024 13:03

So I watched a new review of the S3XY knob (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9mG1050DqE&t=2s), and have to say I'm pretty tempted... Finally a product that adds a large number of shortcuts, allows a bespoke set-up, and provides visual queues as to what each button press will do. (I hadn't realised they'd tapped into a bunch of other controls otherwise restricted by Tesla; I knew about the battery preconditioning ability, but not the regen control.)

The biggest downside is the substantial price - $330 US and that's before shipping. Best discount code I could find was $10 US...

@jarledb - I recall you've bought one of these; did you manage to get it at a lower price? If you've received it, how have you found it, and would you say it was worth the outlay? Has anyone else bought one?

I'm not interested in the same company's buttons - as well as being ugly, their lack of any direct ability to directly indicate what they'll do when pressed. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes another company to reverse engineer the knob and produce it at a more competitive price, but given this actually does more than just display info (ie, it provides another means of control) I'm not sure how much I'd put my trust in one...

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#3198741 22-Feb-2024 13:10

BuzzLightyear:
heavenlywild:

Yeah I went a bit far there, got too excited.

I guess if you are spending that kind of coin you don't really want old tech. Considering you would only want to charge to 90% the purpose of buying a long range based on current battery tech becomes contradictory.

If you need the range it’s useful. I commute Auckland to Hamilton 3 days a week and our LFP doesn’t quite cut it. I can comfortably do it in my Y performance and keep it between 20 and 80% and when I need to travel further charge more. LFP doesn’t suit my use case.

You can't do Hamilton to Auckland return on the LFP and charge overnight? That's disappointing - it's only 240km!

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#3198748 22-Feb-2024 13:20

johno1234:

You can't do Hamilton to Auckland return on the LFP and charge overnight? That's disappointing - it's only 240km!

I think you've misinterpreted what the OP meant there - I'm sure they can clarify what they were referring to, but I'm guessing it's about how many times they can make that trip without charging (though I doubt many EVs can make that return trip three times on a single charge!).

But there's absolutely no issue for a RWD Model Y to do that trip on a single charge; while I'm somewhat disappointed by the range of mine, it's typically capable of around 325-350km of open road driving (depending, of course, on a range of factors...).

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#3198767 22-Feb-2024 14:07

Been a while since I did it in my wife’s LFP Model 3 but I’m pretty sure from 100% you can get Auckland to Hamilton and back. Battery would be well under 20% on return.

I prefer the MYP so I’ve got wiggle room to detour or visit in between my Auckland to Hamilton to Auckland commute.

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#3198771 22-Feb-2024 14:17

That trip would probably be do-able in my wife’s 51kwh MG4 let alone a RWD M3 or MY. This is the estimate for my Model Y, using a fairly conservative level of efficiency:

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#3198794 22-Feb-2024 15:31

jonathan18:

So I watched a new review of the S3XY knob (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9mG1050DqE&t=2s), and have to say I'm pretty tempted... Finally a product that adds a large number of shortcuts, allows a bespoke set-up, and provides visual queues as to what each button press will do. (I hadn't realised they'd tapped into a bunch of other controls otherwise restricted by Tesla; I knew about the battery preconditioning ability, but not the regen control.)

The biggest downside is the substantial price - $330 US and that's before shipping. Best discount code I could find was $10 US...

@jarledb - I recall you've bought one of these; did you manage to get it at a lower price? If you've received it, how have you found it, and would you say it was worth the outlay? Has anyone else bought one?

I'm not interested in the same company's buttons - as well as being ugly, their lack of any direct ability to directly indicate what they'll do when pressed. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes another company to reverse engineer the knob and produce it at a more competitive price, but given this actually does more than just display info (ie, it provides another means of control) I'm not sure how much I'd put my trust in one...

I have to admit I am not really using the S3XY Knob all that much. But I am using a couple of the features that comes with the commander (the unit that connects to your car).

The Commander is handling turning on Autosteer again after making a lane change (given you use your indicator), and it is also making sure that the cars rear lights are on during the day.

Features of the knob I might be using are:

~~Pre-conditioning the battery before charging.~~ Really not needed anymore as Tesla have added third party chargers to the map
Setting window wiper speed
Media controls (at the moment it can only adjust the volume, but previous/next/pause/play etc. are coming).
Quick way to flash the hazard lights to thank someone.

Features of the Commander I won't be using:

Turning off all the traction controls etc. to hoon around
Kickdown (goes from Chlll mode to Sport/Normal if you press down the accelerator all the way)

As for the price, think I paid $199 USD for it, including shipping. But I got in on the pre-sale and paid for mine in August last year.

A little tip if you want to save money: You can control everything you would be able to control via the buttons or knob via the app, so if you are happy with controlling it from your smartphone, you could just buy the commander.

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#3198848 22-Feb-2024 19:18

BuzzLightyear: Been a while since I did it in my wife’s LFP Model 3 but I’m pretty sure from 100% you can get Auckland to Hamilton and back. Battery would be well under 20% on return.

I prefer the MYP so I’ve got wiggle room to detour or visit in between my Auckland to Hamilton to Auckland commute.

Last time I did Northwest Auckland to Hamilton and return with two people on board (M3RWD), I arrived home with 18%. So I’m thinking a MY (about 10% less efficient?) might be a little be closer to the botty pucker level 😁.

Having got the equivalent of 570km (real world) when I test drove the BYD Seal, I’ll be interested to see what the Seal U will be able to do. Might shake the MY market segment a bit, particularly now Juniper appears to have been pushed back to 2025.

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#3198850 22-Feb-2024 19:40

That’s about the same as me as I live in west Auckland. Pretty sure 15 - 20% was return state of charge on the M3. I have to say, what ever Tesla you drive, commuting daily with autopilot makes it a breeze on the Waikato expressway.

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#3216565 10-Apr-2024 15:46

You can't seem to order a custom Y at the moment. Could it be that the new one is coming and they are now waiting for that?

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#3216568 10-Apr-2024 15:54

You can still get to the order page here https://www.tesla.com/en_NZ/modely/design#overview

It seems they're pushing people to help clear their inventory. The Q1 financials showed they have a large number of inventory leftover from Q1 that they need to clear. The refresh isn't scheduled to come out until early next year, but it's probably one of the reasons inventory numbers are high - people are holding out after seeing the Model 3 refresh.

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#3216752 10-Apr-2024 22:34

I know I often write when there is something wrong with the Model Y, so let me try to write when I am happy.

First of all I am happy for the update that gave us adaptive high beams. I think the lights on the Tesla were pretty good already, and I am very happy with the update.

Also happy that the Model Y now talks to my phone app again. Sucks when things don't work.

Other nice updates we have gotten lately that has added to the car:

Speed cameras are now shown in the map (with Premium connectivity)
Navigate to charger now includes third party chargers and pre-conditioning of the battery

It is not all shiny-happy-Tesla though.

First and foremost I wish that the lane departure warnings actually allowed you to be next to the left line and not shout at me so much. Seems to want me to always be in the centre of the lane, even though Autosteer dosen't even manage that itself. There was a time that it was working the way I would like, but most of the time it has been way too nervous.

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