Anchor Milk, lightproof containers, and consumer - can you notice the taste difference?

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surfisup1000

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#222443 11-Aug-2017 10:07

As far as I am aware the main reason for using lightproof containers is to protect the flavour. And in my experience this is true, milk from transparent containers often has an 'off' taste.

But because Anchor made claims about vitamin levels, Consumer compared vitamin levels in lightproof containers against levels in transparent containers and found no difference.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/95671921/anchors-claim-its-bottles-keep-milk-fresher-called-out-by-consumer-nz

Anchor removed the claims regarding vitamin levels, even though there is research that shows light degrades vitamins in milk.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26874418

The comments in the stuff story are interesting. It just seems that so many people cannot tell when milk has an 'off-taste'.

This used to happen quite often when we bought transparent containers but never since we started using the light proof containers.

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#1845023 11-Aug-2017 10:33

It's a scam. Milk in the fridge is not exposed to light most of the time. How long do you honestly leave your fridge door open for?

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#1845025 11-Aug-2017 10:36

lokhor:

It's a scam. Milk in the fridge is not exposed to light most of the time. How long do you honestly leave your fridge door open for?

People return milk to the fridge where you live?

Next you'll be telling me they squeeze the toothpaste tube properly.

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#1845029 11-Aug-2017 10:39

Light makes milk go 'off' faster.

They did a lot of research into this bottle, and spent a lot of money making it work.

My father used to deliver Anchor Milk, and had a milk run when these bottles came out. Their reps used to say (a couple of years before the bottles made an appearance) that for every 20 minutes a milk bottle is left out (not in a dark place) it lost a day off it's best before. Of course, some of that is to do with it not being kept at 4 degrees too.

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#1845031 11-Aug-2017 10:40

lokhor:

It's a scam. Milk in the fridge is not exposed to light most of the time. How long do you honestly leave your fridge door open for?

And how long does that milk sit in a fully lit refrigerated cabinet at the Supermarket before you buy it?

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#1845032 11-Aug-2017 10:40

surfisup1000:

It just seems that so many people cannot tell when milk has an 'off-taste'.

Off taste much accentuated when the milk is warm.

Source: Used to be forced to drink warm, off-tasting 1/2 pint milk bottle left in sun for a few hours every day when school milk was a thing. Greatly envied kid in class who was certified lactose intolerant - which was about the only way you could get out of it.

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#1845034 11-Aug-2017 10:40

i can't notice the difference between top shelf supermarket milk and service station generic brand milk.... because it all comes from the same cows!!!!!!

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#1845035 11-Aug-2017 10:41

Fred99:

lokhor:

It's a scam. Milk in the fridge is not exposed to light most of the time. How long do you honestly leave your fridge door open for?

People return milk to the fridge where you live?

Next you'll be telling me they squeeze the toothpaste tube properly.

Or straighten out the hand towel after use or don't leave their dishes in the sink. How gullible does he think we are?

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#1845036 11-Aug-2017 10:42

gehenna:

i can't notice the difference between top shelf supermarket milk and service station generic brand milk.... because it all comes from the same cows!!!!!!

And the same factory.

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#1845041 11-Aug-2017 10:54

Nope but when you pick one up out of the fridge and it has enough left in it for one cup of tea but you dont know that as you can't see the level and you throw it through the roof to the moon, hmmm...

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#1845043 11-Aug-2017 10:55

gehenna:

i can't notice the difference between top shelf supermarket milk and service station generic brand milk.... because it all comes from the same cows!!!!!!

Yep and it comes out of the same vat via the same machine at the Fonterra plant. Which is why I always by the cheaper branded supermarket milk.

I do like the Lewis Road Creamery organic whole milk which costs about the same as Dom Perignon though. The marketing must have twisted my brain.

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#1845059 11-Aug-2017 11:21

gehenna:

i can't notice the difference between top shelf supermarket milk and service station generic brand milk.... because it all comes from the same cows!!!!!!

Originally milk comes from the same source, but the amount of processing varies on what you buy. I believe the cheaper supermarket brands have a much higher content of permeate added.

I am surprised milk has a lot of value left in it after all the processing it goes through these days to control the amount of protein etc. I remember well milk in bottles when it was 4 cents a pint and had to be used with a couple of days before it would start to turn, regardless of how it was kept.

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#1845061 11-Aug-2017 11:30

Pumpedd:

gehenna:

i can't notice the difference between top shelf supermarket milk and service station generic brand milk.... because it all comes from the same cows!!!!!!

Originally milk comes from the same source, but the amount of processing varies on what you buy. I believe the cheaper supermarket brands have a much higher content of permeate added.

I am surprised milk has a lot of value left in it after all the processing it goes through these days to control the amount of protein etc. I remember well milk in bottles when it was 4 cents a pint and had to be used with a couple of days before it would start to turn, regardless of how it was kept.

you believe the marketing , They both come down the same production line .What milk in the blue label budget milk is exactly the same as blue label anchor milk, the only difference is the label and bottle.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#1845065 11-Aug-2017 11:37

Pumpedd:

gehenna:

i can't notice the difference between top shelf supermarket milk and service station generic brand milk.... because it all comes from the same cows!!!!!!

Originally milk comes from the same source, but the amount of processing varies on what you buy. I believe the cheaper supermarket brands have a much higher content of permeate added.

I don't think that applies to the various store brands that are supplied by Fonterra, but believe that you are correct about other independant brands.

Personally I'm OK with them evening out the consistency with permeate. They take it out of some milk and put it in other milk. No big deal and better than getting weird milk when the cows are having an off day.

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#1845067 11-Aug-2017 11:38

vexxxboy:

Pumpedd:

gehenna:

i can't notice the difference between top shelf supermarket milk and service station generic brand milk.... because it all comes from the same cows!!!!!!

Originally milk comes from the same source, but the amount of processing varies on what you buy. I believe the cheaper supermarket brands have a much higher content of permeate added.

I am surprised milk has a lot of value left in it after all the processing it goes through these days to control the amount of protein etc. I remember well milk in bottles when it was 4 cents a pint and had to be used with a couple of days before it would start to turn, regardless of how it was kept.

you believe the marketing , They both come down the same production line .What milk in the blue label budget milk is exactly the same as blue label anchor milk, the only difference is the label and bottle.

Meadowfresh claim that no permeate is added to standardise their milk, so unless that claim is false (very unlikely) then that's not from the same production line as other milk which was standardised using permeate.

Whether that matters from a nutritional POV etc is another matter.

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#1845071 11-Aug-2017 11:41

Meadow Fresh is not Fonterra.

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