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Topic # 238131 4-Jul-2018 12:31

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Anyone else following this incredible story? I must admit I thought after a week they would be goners... but they are apparently in good physical health. I wonder about their mental health... Imagine being trapped in a muddy cave all that time, presumably in darkness unless they somehow managed to ration their torches. Can you imagine how good it would have felt to finally see the glow of a rescuer's torch appear in the water?

But now they're talking about weeks or months before they can be extracted. Just an unbelievable situation.

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Reply # 2048916 4-Jul-2018 12:43

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After all the crappy news we get every day, it was nice to see some incredible news. I thought they were OK, but not in a suitable condition to be removed as yet?

Let's hope for their safe rescue and quick return.

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Reply # 2048917 4-Jul-2018 12:45

Removing them requires a difficult and dangerous scuba dive hence the possible delay while they have to train them up. Apparently the cave won't "de-flood" for months due to the rainy season.

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Reply # 2048921 4-Jul-2018 12:49

kryptonjohn:

Removing them requires a difficult and dangerous scuba dive hence the possible delay while they have to train them up. Apparently the cave won't "de-flood" for months due to the rainy season.

Yeah, that makes sense, I must admit I didn't read up too much on the specifics of the rescue.

Bit of a shame they can't just stick them in a waterproof plastic bubble with 10 minutes spare air and evacuate them that way!

Training someone to Scuba Dive seems challenging under the best of situations let alone more complex ones.

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Reply # 2048924 4-Jul-2018 12:55

Probably not enough room to maneuver a plastic bubble type arrangement through the cave. They are looking at all options for extracting them. They are trying to divert the water around the cave system, and pump/drain the passage way. But with the rainfall it will be slow. They also have other groups exploring to try to find another way in to them. They even talked about drilling another access shaft to them, but that will alos take time and involve risk. I guess the dive training will also give them something to focus on to pass the time until they can be rescued. Even if they do eventually come out another way.

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Reply # 2048925 4-Jul-2018 12:55

I've seen the headlines but haven't taken the time to read any of the articles yet. Is there a quick tl;dr version around somewhere? How did they get trapped, collapse or unseasonable rain or something?

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Reply # 2048941 4-Jul-2018 13:20

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As always seems to be the case, someone has put up a wikipeda page! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tham_Luang_cave_rescue

Get this bit: "It is believed that most of the group cannot swim, complicating what would already be a difficult rescue"

That's an understatement!

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Reply # 2048993 4-Jul-2018 13:59

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Done my PADI. My moneys on they are going to Build them a platform, Supply them have some Seals stay with them, and wait till the rainy season over. If one of those kids freak out while underwater and No possibility of surfacing....

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Reply # 2048995 4-Jul-2018 14:00

Yes, it was great to read this good news yesterday.

Quite the dilemma to leave them there for months or have them 'dive' their way out.

Apparently "Seal commander Rear Admiral Arpakorn Yookongkaew said there was no rush to bring them out, since they're safe where they are."

Now I'm no shrink and whilst they may physically be safe, surely leaving teenage boys living in a cave for months on end would cause some psychological damage?

Most of the trouble in the world is caused by people wanting to be important. (T.S. Eliot)

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Reply # 2048999 4-Jul-2018 14:13

floydbloke:

here they are."

Now I'm no shrink and whilst they may physically be safe, surely leaving teenage boys living in a cave for months on end would cause some psychological damage?

Most teenage boys' bedrooms are a bit like caves anyway. I guess if they brought them in some tissues and smutty mags it would be business as usual I reckon.

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Reply # 2049044 4-Jul-2018 14:38

Amazing story. Really good for Thailand image and publicity coordinating all that and then success. Some dangers remain. I wondered about air supply. How big is the cave they reached?

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Reply # 2049049 4-Jul-2018 14:44

Maybe the constant amount of water gushing through the cave has enough oxygen saturation to stabilise the air oxygen level?

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Reply # 2049061 4-Jul-2018 14:59

kryptonjohn:

Maybe the constant amount of water gushing through the cave has enough oxygen saturation to stabilise the air oxygen level?

Cave air will have higher carbon dioxide levels. It has nowhere to go but can dissolve back into water.

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Reply # 2049065 4-Jul-2018 15:04

Sent chills up my spine when I heard they'd been found safe and well.

It may be some months before the water recedes and they all get out. At least they can be guaranteed food, warmth, lighting, and entertainment.

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Reply # 2049201 4-Jul-2018 19:25

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gbwelly:

floydbloke:

here they are."

Now I'm no shrink and whilst they may physically be safe, surely leaving teenage boys living in a cave for months on end would cause some psychological damage?

Most teenage boys' bedrooms are a bit like caves anyway. I guess if they brought them in some tissues and smutty mags it would be business as usual I reckon.

If that was an attempt at humour, I think it was a big failure.

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Reply # 2049206 4-Jul-2018 19:30

Out of adversity comes innovation. Someone is going to invent a simple and functional submarine to get them out. I can't see how else.

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