Hammerer:

 

tdgeek:

 

Show me where I said geo unblocking is illegal?

 

 

I couldn't find it when I searched.

 

But I did find when tdgeek and Rikkitic found common ground in this thread. Since then we've gone around again:

 

tdgeek:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Why can't local distributors maintain two or more catalogs side by side? There would be the Netflix NZ catalog, but also the US one for an extra fee. I don't see why it always has to be an all or nothing deal. Also, I don't see why the overseas catalog would necessarily have to be sold by any particular distributor. Maybe it could be offered to the highest bidder, with the only restriction being that the bidder has to be operating within the boundaries of the country it is bidding from. So Netflix, along with other distributors, would bid on the overseas catalog rights and Sky might end up with them while Netflix continues to operate the NZ catalog. Other overseas content producers, like BBC, could do the same, with the local distributor acting as an agent. 

 

For me, and I think for a lot of people, the issue is not getting content for free, but getting freedom of choice. The things I want to watch just are not available here, at any price. Yet I know they are available elsewhere. This is what motivates geo-unblocking in the first place.

 

 

 

 

 

 

That is the key.

 

 

 

Take Netflix's own content. They can sell it here under Netflix NZ, or sell it to a distributor here. It's here, thats all that matters

 

Other content would be bought. Maybe by Netflix NZ, Lightbox, Neon. It would be here.

 

Depending on your tastes, you might have one or more of the services, but all the content that is available globally, is avaliable here

 

Would this keep everyone happy? All the contect is here and geoblock bypassing is not needed

 

 

 

 

Cos I didn't!

Yes we do agree that globalisation is what we all want. No doubt the prices would rise as what we want from NF or whoever, thats not here, is due to another bought the rights to play here on another service, or its not here yet. Globalisation scenario could be these.

1. There is a monopoly, where NF has everything. Same rights fees but central to one provider = higher price. Cant see that. If anything it might remove the NF's and replace them with the studios doing it direct.

2. Rights are sold, as they are now, on the proviso, that in every country, every item of content is available on any one provider. We would have to subscribe to multiple providers to get everything, or some to get most. Less cost per provider, but more providers, so more cost overall. 

From what I gather, NF doesnt want regional rights, they want global. But some agreements may expire tomorrow, others are 5 years, so it will happen, over time.

Where we don't agree is grabbing content that is not available as we don't have the rights and thereby denying the studies payments. Paying NF and not the studio. But as you say it goes around in circles like every other debate. 

As this is transitional, there will be holes everywhere as its not possible to say, we are going global at midnight on the 18th. Far too complex and with agreements locked in for a year or years, for that to happen.