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wellygary:

 

Batman:

I'm not interested in how many cases.

The important statistic is how many of and about while infectious (that's what the MOH call these) and how many mystery cases (that's how the media call these).

Someone can plot these graphs?

 

Daily mystery case number are not very useful because they will subsequently get reclassified if tracing finds links...

 

To produce a chart of any real use you really need access to the case database so you can monitor the status of each daily case across time, and see how long it takes to link cases, 

 

We don't have anywhere near enough info to do that on the daily statements...

 

Also the classification of "being infectious in the community" is only superficially useful... going out to the dairy for milk once until you get contacted as a linked case is a lot better than being out for weeks until you get called.... again all we get is a very high level figure..

 

Indeed. And it's somewhat of a 24hr lag once they do the sequencing. They report the following day how many have been tidied up from the previous - so thy have a dent AND the total number does as a result. Little variable right now. But it was 33, then 24, then a lot less as they dig deeper.

This is about as close as you will get..

Batman: Ok so we're all none the wiser then.

Eagerly waiting for Monday is the best we can do.

Know what you mean but there is something that unvaccinated can do if they only do one thing.

Vaccinate, and Vaccinate, higher % we can get the better.  Get it done for you for your family, and for your community.

Batman: Ok so we're all none the wiser then.

Eagerly waiting for Monday is the best we can do.

Bloomfield said there were now 29 unlinked 'mystery' cases under investigation in the outbreak, including six today.

Fred99:

 

Announces that daily announcements / press conferences will cease as from Monday.

 

"Leadership".  Wow.

 

Isn't that what all the banana republics or totalitarian states end up doing?

Oblivian:

 

Batman: Ok so we're all none the wiser then.

Eagerly waiting for Monday is the best we can do.

 

Bloomfield said there were now 29 unlinked 'mystery' cases under investigation in the outbreak, including six today.

 

What is a mystery case? I get that there were x cases infectious in the community. But what is a mystery case. It all sounds mysterious and clickbait. 

tdgeek:

 

What is a mystery case? I get that there were x cases infectious in the community. But what is a mystery case. It all sounds mysterious and clickbait. 

 

They are not linked to a known case. They aren't in a household of a known case and expected to have got it. They have not been to one of the LoI at the time of interest. Hand me down infection.

There are 2 of concern today, where gnomically 2 in 1 household. Have intermediate malformation. They didn't get it from the same source/each other and have a different variant each. THAT is 2 mystery case examples.

Oblivian:

 

They are not linked to a known case. They aren't in a household of a known case and expected to have got it. They have not been to one of the LoI at the time of interest. Hand me down infection.

 

There are 2 of concern today, where gnomically 2 in 1 household. Have intermediate malformation. They didn't get it from the same source/each other and have a different variant each. THAT is 2 mystery case examples.

 

I feel it may be a long tail. Less cases (many of them were household cases so "probably" not an issue) and as lockdown locks in household cases, we are left with the infectious in the community cases. Still not bad. If all the infectious had symptoms it would be  hell of  a lot easier than it is now, with asymptomatic being not uncommon.

Bundled into same figure perhaps. Seems 'in the community' are focused on daily - as were not previous positives or expected to be, but have been out and about. But then those cases can still be linked to household or family members. The 'mystery' ones, appear not to be.

Total dropped 15 today by looks.. But then 7 of the 11 were new. So they do find links somehow.

tdgeek:

 

Oblivian:

 

They are not linked to a known case. They aren't in a household of a known case and expected to have got it. They have not been to one of the LoI at the time of interest. Hand me down infection.

 

There are 2 of concern today, where gnomically 2 in 1 household. Have intermediate malformation. They didn't get it from the same source/each other and have a different variant each. THAT is 2 mystery case examples.

 

Thanks Craig. So, its essentially infectious in the community?

 

not it means we don't know who gave it to them, we don't know who gave it to whom gave it to them, we don't know who gave it to whom gave it to whom gave it to them.

was speaking to a Fijian.

he's upset that "we had no covid, once they started vaccinating people started dying"

we live in difficult times.

Batman:

 

 

 

not it means we don't know who gave it to them, we don't know who gave it to whom gave it to them, we don't know who gave it to whom gave it to whom gave it to them.

 

If I was infectious in the community you wont know who I gave it to, as maybe I dont scan. Maybe I got it from another who doesnt scan. Bottom line is we dont know either way as some people dont scan or don't fess up. The bottom line is the same. For people who DO, and comply, they are dropping off nicely, that leaves the laggards. A long tail, which is unfortunate as the AKL lockdown can drag on even though the instances are very low. But unknown. The right side of the Bell Curve.

Batman:

 

was speaking to a Fijian.

 

he's upset that "we had no covid, once they started vaccinating people started dying"

 

we live in difficult times.

 

Dont follow that at all. In Fiji? Islanders have a wonderful, carefree culture. But that counted against them when lockdown still meant socialising. They didn't lockdown as they were asked/told to. Its the same old story. A few weeks of lockdown, gives the virus no hosts. If you dont comply, hosts can be plentiful. We are past 18 months in, the math does in fact work.

The PM seems to have spawned the phrase on the 6th. And it has been run with. The later the most important. 

Some of this is to be expected as we see close contacts and family members test positive, but some of these are still what we call unlinked or mystery cases. These matter because so long as we don’t know where a case has come from, we cannot tell if we have other chains of transmission in the community that we haven’t isolated yet. That’s a cause for concern

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But, as Dr Bloomfield said, what we’ve asked for is basically to date-stamp those mystery cases, because if they were very, very early on, then, look, we accept that there were a large number of exposure events early on. But if you’re getting them later on with infection onset later on, then they are more risky to us.