2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2463925 17-Apr-2020 09:29

tdgeek:

My point was that they are loud and slow. They have a following but not because of the performance.

You do know you are messing with you Tony?

Motor/motorised = Electric

Its something my Dad(Engineer) always corrected us on.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2463935 17-Apr-2020 09:33

MikeB4:

You do know you are messing with you Tony?

Motor/motorised = Electric

Its something my Dad(Engineer) always corrected us on.

Understood! :-( :-)

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#2463938 17-Apr-2020 09:36

MikeB4:
tdgeek:

My point was that they are loud and slow. They have a following but not because of the performance.

You do know you are messing with you Tony?

Motor/motorised = Electric

Its something my Dad(Engineer) always corrected us on.

All depends on your perspective...

Motorised = wheels.

Mechanised = tracks.

;)

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#2463942 17-Apr-2020 09:39

Ge0rge:
MikeB4:

You do know you are messing with you Tony?

Motor/motorised = Electric

Its something my Dad(Engineer) always corrected us on.

All depends on your perspective...

Motorised = wheels.

Mechanised = tracks.

;)

Or alternatively:

Motorised - them

Not Motorised and therefore allowable - Me.

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#2463943 17-Apr-2020 09:40

debo: The journalist/creative writer totally made up the extrapolation. Birthing mothers are not a random sample. They are all share common experiences. I would say it is possible that there are covid19 positive midwives infecting clients, or contaminated ambulances, or they are being infected at reception at the hospital itself. They need to do contact tracing on the infected mothers before any extrapolation is done. This story is worthy 7of Fox news. Its no wonder why more and more people prefer to get their news from Karen on Facebook.

in the second half of the clip they showed that the author of the journal paper was there and she was asked after the monologue whether she wanted to correct the monologue and the author said everything valid.

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#2463944 17-Apr-2020 09:40

mattwnz:
msukiwi: Does level 3 mean we might see flour and yeast back on the Supermarket shelves?

I can't really understand why they haven't resovled that yet, and got the large bags repackaged. Many people make their own bread with their breadmakers but can't, which means that packaged bread is also rationed by some supermarkets I have found.

Our local NW has flour repackaged in ~2(?) kg clear plastic bags, with limit one per customer. Also 20 kg bags on the shelf below.

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#2463951 17-Apr-2020 09:44

frankv:
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But that's just my peanut-gallery opinion, I assume there's some reason for opening only for younger age groups.

Cynically, I think it's because schools are nowadays more important as child minders than educators. Year 10 is about 15, which coincidentally is about the age that they can legally be at home alone.

Y10 is 13-14 with 14 being the "legal" age kids can be left at home alone or in charge of younger siblings

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#2463967 17-Apr-2020 09:47

debo:

That sounds very concerning to me. If a person before you was positive then everything in there should be considered contaminated. The floor, the door handles, the seat, everything. That means that all your skin, clothing and shoes should be considered cross contaminated. Did you take set of clothing and shoes to change into after leaving the clinic? Did you sanitise your hands after leaving (and again after changing clothes)? It would not be good if you were negative, only to catch it while being tested. You would get a negative result in a few days and think you are ok but actually have the virus.

@debo All doors were opened for me so the only thing I touched was the chair I sat in, and I got the impression from a few things she said that the chair would have have been disinfected between patients (they didn't explicitly say this, but I inferred it from other comments).

The carpet all had plastic protector on it (like when you paint a house), presumably so the floor could be easily disinfected. I don't know whether this was done between patients or not, but it's possible given that I had to wait 20-25 min in my car before I went in, and during that time the only person I saw enter and leave was someone collecting swabs to go the the lab. The Dr did say she was fastidious about cleaning things.

I wasn't concerned, and trusted they were taking all relevant precautions.

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#2463969 17-Apr-2020 09:48

blackjack17:

Y10 is 13-14 with 14 being the "legal" age kids can be left at home alone or in charge of younger siblings

And younger kids have one class, one teacher, which is easier to manage bubble wise. Rather than the kids having periods during the day with different teachers and pupils in each of them

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#2464031 17-Apr-2020 10:06

Had my first INR test (Blood thinner) since the lock down, this morning at Riccarton Clinic.

Noticed that there is obviously a Covid-19 testing station set up in the rear carpark for drive-thru screening .

Large fencing and Portacoms labelled as Triage and Doctor)

Virtually no patients in the Clinic itself, only me and 2 others in the 30 minutes I was there.

Guy at the entrance to check why you were there. Face mask handed out. Hand sanitiser station there as always.

Very pleasant and efficient.

Countdown Church Corner had a few in the queue waiting for opening @ 0800hrs.

But the carpark was over half full about 30 minutes later.

No queue, and a Security Guard outside the entrance.

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#2464039 17-Apr-2020 10:17

shk292:

vexxxboy:

how many surfers have you heard of off that need a search and rescue operation to find them, Yachts on the other hand

You obviously missed the news reporting of the surfers getting rescued at Sumner in the first few days of lockdown

Yachts on the other hand, used safely in inshore and coastal waters are inherently safe and have multiple forms of propulsion, good communications and safety equipment

I didn't hear about rescues at Sumner - I did hear about some locals giving a few surfers a hard time - in the first few days of lockdown it was quite unclear whether surfing was "banned" as the rules weren't specific to that level - that was clarified a few days later. While many surfers may travel by car to a beach, many in Sumner live within an easy walk from the beach and were a bit peeved about the ban, given the numbers of people loading mountain bikes on the back of their cars and heading up the Port Hills, involving "unnecessary" travel and an inherently far more risky activity.

I've been sailing most of my life. Bit peeved because I'd love to take the boat out for a few nights on the water. Through webcams I see plenty of yachts and launches anchored in places around the country where at this time of year there are usually very few. There were grizzles about this at Great Barrier, because the numbers of people on boats who'd arrived hadn't loaded up with supplies before leaving (presumably Auckland) and were cleaning out local stores.

Almost all boating related rescues/deaths are on small boats - "three men in a 3m inflatable going out for fishing and a few beers, no cellphones in waterproof sleeve, no hand-held VHF, gales forecast, impeller on outboard last changed in 1984"

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#2464041 17-Apr-2020 10:21

MikeB4: Another concern is the new rules for level 3 are more complex than level 4. I big chunk of the population did not understand level 4 simple rules it all points to a shambles for level 3.

This. The rules need to be bumper-sticker length or less, and as few as possible. As soon as they need to be explained or elaborated upon, a big chunk of the population will interpret them to their own preferences, and then the rules might as well not exist.

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#2464043 17-Apr-2020 10:22

tdgeek:

My point was that they are loud and slow. They have a following but not because of the performance.

Converting fossil fuel into decibels and hot air is a measure of performance.

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#2464046 17-Apr-2020 10:32

@ds248 is there a practical way to determine based on current trends how long it would be before we had 4 days of no new cases? Assuming a continuation of L4 lockdown?

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#2464047 17-Apr-2020 10:34

Gurezaemon:

MikeB4: Another concern is the new rules for level 3 are more complex than level 4. I big chunk of the population did not understand level 4 simple rules it all points to a shambles for level 3.

This. The rules need to be bumper-sticker length or less, and as few as possible. As soon as they need to be explained or elaborated upon, a big chunk of the population will interpret them to their own preferences, and then the rules might as well not exist.

I agree. I am quite worried about what happens in L3.

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