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#2767034 26-Aug-2021 14:48

+24hrs from #2

Small stints of 'the chills' when standing from prone or randomly.
Nose clear. Slightly tender stab area (can pinpoint it to about 50c area) punch zone.

Still able to go for lunchtime wander just fine

Touch wood I may have won the lottery of the 3-week-ers at work who felt crap.

Still 48hr window where it may change

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#2767070 26-Aug-2021 15:54

Handsomedan:
It's going to be challenging enough as it is, because both myself and my 14yo are horrifically needle phobic, so already having a few freakout moments. Would be good if we can all just get it over and done in one hit, so to speak.

Just wanted to comment that I think it's absolutely amazing that people who are horribly needle-phobic are going out to get vaccinated, at a time when idiots who aren't needle-phobic are refusing to have it done based on various imaginary excuses.

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#2767087 26-Aug-2021 15:56

Reanalyse:

Just wondering if those who are younger (than my 70 years) and have a better immune system have more side effects from the jab ?

It is commonly reported that younger people report more side effects than older people but not by a large margin.

Anecdotally, I only know of older people who have moderate to severe (incapacitating) side effects. My children and others in their 20s and 30s don't seem to be reporting any problems.

Most side effects are reported relatively early after the injection so you can't tell from this whether you have a strong immune system because the processes that provide immunity work more slowly.

https://theconversation.com/no-vaccine-side-effects-dont-tell-you-how-well-your-immune-system-will-protect-you-from-covid-19-158728

The factors in, and the molecular pathways of, reactogenicity (adverse reactions) are not that well understood. If they were then we would expect vaccine developers to minimise the risk of such reactions because the presence of side effects lowers vaccine uptake.

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#2767503 27-Aug-2021 12:03

For anyone on the North Shore wanting quick drive up or walk through testing, the Eventfinda Stadium on Wairau has close to zero queue as of about half an hour ago, wait was maybe ten minutes. They said they had long lines when they opened but it had cleared by about ten or so.

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#2767510 27-Aug-2021 12:14

Well. Made it through.
Ever so slight tiredness. But may have been attributed to the extra 3ks than normal walk

Little bit of 'ick' feel late last night. But unscathed compared to others at work..chap who got it same day as me slept most of yesterday due tiredness.

Took these 2 days off regardless. Hindsight would have been doing the same thing anyway!

At home/checking in with workmates even though on leave. While when we're working, we're at home and granted a little freedom.

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#2767548 27-Aug-2021 13:18

I had my first jab a few weeks ago and was booked to have my second three weeks later which ended up being the day after we went into lockdown.

Booking both was easy, the first jab was well organised and I had zero side effects.

The second jab was obviously cancelled and I was advised to book for six weeks rather than the original three. I did that easily online but couldn't get anywhere local so booked in a 20 minute drive away.

Later that day the appointment was cancelled by email and I was allocated an appointment at a local pop-up drive-through event for the following morning. I received automated email and texts and a personal email to confirm the date and location change.

I took my wife and our 18 year old son with no appointment and they did all of us with no problems at all. It ran like clockwork with three lanes of cars and multiple "jabbers" operating.

I had a mild headache the following day, a little fatigue and my arm felt like I'd been punched, but nothing to stop me having a normal day.

My wife felt fatigued the next day so she took the day off WFH and felt better the following day. Our son had no issues at all.

It couldn't have been any easier and both events I've been too couldn't have been any better organised.

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#2767686 27-Aug-2021 15:53

martyyn:
It couldn't have been any easier and both events I've been too couldn't have been any better organised.

That was one thing I was thinking about on the walk back from my day 12 test today, the incredible amount of behind-the-scenes organisation that's happened with the testing and tracking. If someone told me I had to implement a system to enrol on-the-spot and track hundreds of thousands to millions of people, some of whom will have their names spelled wrong, cellphone numbers typoed, etc, figure out who was where and with what urgency level to process them, come up with computing devices with a usable and functional software interface for the people running the testing, and then run it via overloaded cellphone towers and the presence of outages and who knows what other conditions, you'd hear a brief pop as the air rushed in to reoccupy the space I'd just vacated. Given the way many other government IT rollouts end up, someone has done a phenomenal job in getting this one sorted out and working, particularly since it all had to work the first time it was used at scale.

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#2767890 28-Aug-2021 01:07

Been vaxxed since May as a frontline health worker with the original 3 week interval. Found out they're now using 6 weeks? And you have the option to pick which gap you like? Can you choose a later date to follow other country's advice (12 weeks?)

Just want to share... anecdotal but in my circle, the younger people (staff) had worse side effects than our residents... good thing we didn't get jabbed at the same time in the workplace because most of us took sick days to manage the side effects... second jab was way worse in our experience.

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#2767893 28-Aug-2021 01:22

allune:

Been vaxxed since May as a frontline health worker with the original 3 week interval. Found out they're now using 6 weeks? And you have the option to pick which gap you like? Can you choose a later date to follow other country's advice (12 weeks?)

Just want to share... anecdotal but in my circle, the younger people (staff) had worse side effects than our residents... good thing we didn't get jabbed at the same time in the workplace because most of us took sick days to manage the side effects... second jab was way worse in our experience.

Yes, it appears to be possible to choose any gap you want, although I think i still a 3 week lower limit.

I was going to set a longer gap, but ended up picking the default 6 weeks. This puts my second vaccination sometime in November, which seems like a long way away off in Level 4 Auckland, but probably a reasonable trade-off, between getting the most effective result and getting protection ASAP.

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#2767898 28-Aug-2021 03:50

So with Auckland at level 4 and the rest of the country at level 3, will retailers start opening orders up again to be shipped from their non auckland stores?

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#2767934 28-Aug-2021 09:28

Am in the "at risk" group and had the 2 vaccinations (3 weeks apart) a couple of months ago.

No problems with taking it, my Chemist said that if you get a reaction it means you have a high immune system and that is has picked up a foreign matter in your body, which makes sense.

I am also in Auckland and noticed there are about 13 x LOI's 5-10 minutes from home.

Am very greatful for home deliveries and having a freezer in the garage.

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#2767939 28-Aug-2021 09:43

richms:

So with Auckland at level 4 and the rest of the country at level 3, will retailers start opening orders up again to be shipped from their non auckland stores?

I would imagine so. Deliveries from overseas have been allowed throughout level 4.

But for the retailers selling non-essential stuff, with major distribution centers in Auckland, they will quickly run into stock issues outside of Auckland. I imagine there is a major scramble to re-route shipping containers to non-Auckland distribution centers at the moment.

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#2768445 29-Aug-2021 17:22

So I’ve been going back and forth on making a post like this for a while now, IT is a pretty small field in NZ and Medical IT could fill a small school hall and still have space left over but then I saw this thread and I’m waiting for a storage vmotion to finish so I figure why the hell not, it might be a little disjointed/barely coherent

I’m sure in this audience I don’t need to mention IT is invisible unless it breaks but there has been a significant amount of IT workers in NZ that have been keeping all the Health IT systems rolling, my job has a few titles but basically, I solve problems/come up with solutions and our entire company does primary healthcare IT that is to say your GP’s and Urgent Care clinics but we stay out of hospital land, We support a good chunk of it too NZ wide

Now prior to the 2020 lockdown most clinics had desktop pc’s, almost no one had remote access and maybe 2-3 laptops so you can imagine what happened the night of the 2020 lockdown. I’m sure this was the same for a lot of IT companies both in and out of health but thousands of gp’s/nurses/admin staff all over the country went remote overnight. Now this is health, this is health at the start of a pandemic, slow wasn’t an option. Now I’ve done my time in the trenches on Service/Help desk and this was probably the worst crunch I’ve seen in my career; call volumes were 600-700% normal and ticket volumes via emails and account managers were even higher.

There was a shortage of EVERYTHING and not a single supplier I encountered had a process for prioritizing essential services/medical, if you were luck your account manager would be able to intercept something in the warehouse and redirect it. Laptops/Desktop Monitors/Video Conferencing screens/Webcams all were out of stock within 12-18 hours, at least the remote access software was just licensing until it hit is’ cap, then you had to call the disti to try and rush thru a new base license order etc. It was just complete chaos that pushed many people near to their limits.

No long after the initial day or two we started getting the “advice” calls, ideas were going around doctors and nurses to do consults via every social media platform you can think of, fb messenger, whatsapp, zoom, skpye, google meets all of them came up at various points and admin staff and management were wanting to know the privacy impact/rules around it and all we could really say was “We don’t know”.

Now this is all just backstory because here’s the personal impact, this hasn’t stopped in 16 months really. Between the rush to equip staff to work remotely and the global semiconductor shortage the past 16 months have been absolute hell, an almost consistent 7 days a week grind to try and get ahead of potential problems because EVERYTHING is delayed and at the same time you have a massive expansion of pop up clinics, clinics leasing new space for “red zones”, port clinics etc etc. This means that when you get a 2-3 days notice that a new swab sites being set up with 10 new staff you’ve got to pull 10 laptops, wireless Aps, Switches and get comms installed YET Enterprise SSD’s are 16+ weeks out because you need more space for the DB’s. You want servers to deal with all these new full RDP session users? Well opps I know the supplier said 16 weeks when you ordered them in May 21 but it turns out it’s going to be another 4 weeks. Laptops? Oh boy the disti has 322 models under $2k for you to pick from, only 39 are in stock tho the rest at 8 weeks out (maybe). There’s just this overwhelming pressure on you to come up with something otherwise that swab clinic might only be running at ½ speed or the new vaccination clinic might be weeks behind opening

At least some vendors have processes now for prioritizing stock to essential services but given the semiconductor shortage that just means waiting 4 months instead of 6-8 months all of which makes it’s bloody hard to juggle/predict demand for a response to something that might change in a 3-4 day window. This current lockdown’s been fun, 2 of the major PC brands in NZ decided they were stopping service jobs and parts shipments for all of L4/L3 and still don’t have a process for essential services so any PC or Laptop that needs work at a clinic that’s got a next day onsite warranty is useless. Thankfully only had 1 service call but it took 3 different people escalating for the part to be released and one of us had to do the job of fitting it.

Everything is on fire to some degree and it’s not a matter of manpower to fix it you just have this unstoppable force of healthcare expansion meeting this immovable object of global supply shortages, there’s going to be tens of thousands of medical professionals with pretty bad PTSD coming out of this pandemic but there’s also going to be a lot of more mild cases from everyone else who kept the cogs of society moving. Personally, I’ve watched people around me workday and night for weeks and months to help keep frontline healthcare running, many mercy missions with cars full of kit going into known hot zones going into clinics running like it wartime to boost capacity. A lot of IT people I’ve heard from in the rest of the country and world have done a lot of tremendous work, but it’s certainly taken it’s toll.

Anyway, I guess it’s kind of therapeutic to brain dump this stuff, I know it’s not about getting the jab or the side effects or anything but even if it’s just yelling into the void it’s nice to write done some thoughts that have been rattling around my head for a while now

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#2768471 29-Aug-2021 17:49

I hear ya. It was mad last year. But more people prepared this year. To an extent. (I'm in similar role)

Tuesday of the 6PM announcement after the single case, I was warning colleagues around the office of the likely go-hard warnings and to make sure their WFH kit was up to scratch. Noone took me seriously. So I fired up some spare units just-in-case and took home a laptop I could use remote tools on

I told you so moment that night, lead to a Wednesday of monitoring endpoints and either unlocking, calling users or advising no, the laptop they used last year won't magically work as it hasn't been on-net to sync passwords and thus poked. But thanks for helping find where it had go to :)

Still do it for the odd shift worker that has held out to get back once the realisation this week was it had extended been forced to try. And have since had to go in a few times, restarting remote PCs or setup kit to ship out for the ones who are high and dry.

Dell supply was still rolling over hard-to-get from last year. Worse now.

All I can say is thank god for office apps on the web for 365 migrated punters. Far easier to deal with then on-prem situations even if they have no mobility solution.

I don't bother telling people what I do /reason we're considered the un-seen 'essentials'. Other than to say when they see me driving off somewhere - 'IT makes the world go around'

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#2768489 29-Aug-2021 18:44

We were advised by management over a week before lockdown started to take laptops etc home each night and test that we were ready for WFH. Any issues had time to be sorted before lockdown started.

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