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  #3205220 11-Mar-2024 08:24
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SaltyNZ:

 

We already know that multinational businesses dodge business tax by finding ways to charge themselves fees so that they "never" make a profit anywhere except the Cayman Islands or the like. This is a direct result of business being taxed on profit rather than revenue like wage earners are. And I accept the rationale behind taxing profit rather than revenue - i.e. that by only taxing profit we encourage business to reinvest their money in the business to expand it. Higher marginal profit taxes won't change that situation; businesses big and smart enough to structure are already doing it.

 

What we need even more are mechanisms to catch that money leaving the country. The situation is absurd.

 

 

Funny, was reading about this yesterday, in a US context. And they put it it an easy way to understand:

 

  • Company registers in the USA
  • Company registers in Ireland
  • Irish company "owns" the IP, trademark, etc
  • The USA-based company pays an absurd price to the Irish company for the rights to use those
  • The company pays someone in the Cayman Islands to "own" a corporation
  • Irish company pays absurd consulting fees to Cayman Islands corporation

Money is clean. How do they repatriate the money? 

 

They don't. The company borrows money using the foreign bank accounts in their name as "collateral".

 

If the loan expires, renew it with even bigger collateral because there's more money in the bank.

 

Companies are happy, banks are happy. The common citizenry is the only ones paying tax (on salary, on GST with money already taxed on salary source, on petrol, etc).

 

Rinse, repeat.

 

They don't use their money. They use someone else's money to make more money.





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  #3205440 11-Mar-2024 15:41
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David Seymour coming dangerously close to a moment of self-awareness here:

 

 

 

 

"Some guy comes over and starts filming me. I thought 'that's a bit weird' and then he says 'you know what, sometimes you get exactly what you deserve," Seymour told NZ Herald. 

 

 

 

 

But no, we all know roads are for cars and anyone who says otherwise is dreaming. Either way, abuse was not OK.

 

 





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  #3205469 11-Mar-2024 17:33
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Or, ultimately, anyone who *does*.




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  #3205471 11-Mar-2024 17:37
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Right wing parties don't care about the planet, they only care about their time on the planet. 


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  #3205473 11-Mar-2024 17:43
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Simon Bridges appointed as Waka Kotahi chairperson

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/511402/simon-bridges-to-chair-waka-kotahi-nz-transport-agency

I hope he's prepared for a lot of questions about potholes.



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  #3205475 11-Mar-2024 17:49
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Ex MPs need to be stop from coming back as "Consultants", heads of Government agencies, Ambassadors , etc etc etc.

 

Its effectively a form of nepotism.


 
 
 

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  #3205478 11-Mar-2024 17:57
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I'm not so sure. More often than not they do a good job these days.

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  #3205492 11-Mar-2024 19:53
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gzt: I'm not so sure. More often than not they do a good job these days.

 

I agree with both of you. The appointments are clearly nepotism, but the performance is often real, as they arent tied between politics where they MUST perform to the voters not to reality. At least in a non Governmental way, they can show their wares.


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  #3206127 13-Mar-2024 19:00
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"Renters 'very grateful' for incoming landlord tax breaks - Luxon"

This PM must be a complete ignoramus. I mean, he can't be that level of cartoonish evil villain.




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  #3206129 13-Mar-2024 19:03
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Don't forget, Jack Tame asked Luxon point blank if his tenants would be getting a rent cut after the tax breaks went in, and he refused to say they would. In other words, they won't.





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  #3206131 13-Mar-2024 19:11
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SaltyNZ:

Don't forget, Jack Tame asked Luxon point blank if his tenants would be getting a rent cut after the tax breaks went in, and he refused to say they would. In other words, they won't.



Why would they get a rent reduction. His costs don’t change - the properties don’t have mortgages so there is no change in his tax.

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  #3206138 13-Mar-2024 19:20
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Handle9:
SaltyNZ:

 

Don't forget, Jack Tame asked Luxon point blank if his tenants would be getting a rent cut after the tax breaks went in, and he refused to say they would. In other words, they won't.



Why would they get a rent reduction. His costs don’t change - the properties don’t have mortgages so there is no change in his tax.

 

Yeah he's really fortunate to not have a mortgage. He said so himself in this interview where he did his great thing of not answering questions and getting all flustered as per normal.

 

 

what a great guy.





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  #3206140 13-Mar-2024 19:26
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Strange, I'm currently renting but I don't really feel "grateful", nor do I like thanking him. Might be because my rent goes up next week.


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  #3206141 13-Mar-2024 19:30
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quickymart: Strange, I'm currently renting but I don't really feel "grateful", nor do I like thanking him. Might be because my rent goes up next week.

 

According to Luxon that shouldn't happen! Kiwis are doing it tough and all that and all this is to give tenants a break. Just goes to show trickle down doesn't work. You should however ask your landlord for a rent reduction based on the tax breaks they're getting.





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