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#2767969 28-Aug-2021 10:41

SirHumphreyAppleby:

Don't waste your money on any new hardware.

https://www.theverge.com/22644194/microsoft-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements-processors-changes

Oooo

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#2767970 28-Aug-2021 10:42

MikeB4:

Are sure you don’t have a TPM chip? Some makers/assemblers have them included but not turned on. Also check you Mainboard there may well be an add on TPM chip available. That would be the less painful route to take.

Apparently I don't. Actually I'm pretty sure.

Windows says there is no TPM module installed.

I searched the entire bios and no TPM option.

So i googled my Mobo and the internet says it does not come with a TPM module and i have to buy an add on one.

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#2768024 28-Aug-2021 12:14

I have installed Win 11 on two occasions via the Insider Group, each time with no problems, however I am back on Win 10 as it does what I want it to do, admittedly it has been tidied up over the years that I have had it and I know where to get software and tools installed on it.

The only fail on the compatibility test is the Intel Core i5 7th Generation Processor and there seems to be some doubt that it should have been included in the list ??

There is also a bit of misinformation about Classic Shell not running on Win 11, it works perfectly, sorts itself out when you first start Win 11.

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#2768035 28-Aug-2021 12:40

Running Windows 11 Insider beta on a desktop (Intel Xeon Silver, 48 GB RAM) and a laptop (Intel Core 10th Gen, 16 GB RAM) and it's actually behaving really well.

Windows 10 was released in 2015 - also (again) so much for being "the last Windows release" marketing spin back then.

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#2768142 28-Aug-2021 16:42

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MikeB4:

Are sure you don’t have a TPM chip? Some makers/assemblers have them included but not turned on. Also check you Mainboard there may well be an add on TPM chip available. That would be the less painful route to take.

Apparently I don't. Actually I'm pretty sure.

Windows says there is no TPM module installed.

I searched the entire bios and no TPM option.

So i googled my Mobo and the internet says it does not come with a TPM module and i have to buy an add on one.

Or just run Windows 10 until 2025. Is there a feature in Windows 11 you actually need?

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#2768143 28-Aug-2021 16:45

one likes to weigh up their options

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#2768153 28-Aug-2021 18:12

Handle9:

Or just run Windows 10 until 2025. Is there a feature in Windows 11 you actually need?

Support beyond 2025? 😜

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#2768160 28-Aug-2021 18:57

Batman:

MikeB4:

Are sure you don’t have a TPM chip? Some makers/assemblers have them included but not turned on. Also check you Mainboard there may well be an add on TPM chip available. That would be the less painful route to take.

Apparently I don't. Actually I'm pretty sure.

Windows says there is no TPM module installed.

I searched the entire bios and no TPM option.

So i googled my Mobo and the internet says it does not come with a TPM module and i have to buy an add on one.

Try looking for PTT (Platform Trust Technology) in your BIOS instead.

It's the same thing as a TPM module but built directly into the CPU.

Not sure why Intel felt the need to give it a different name.

Anyway, the interwebs seem to suggest it should be present in most 6th gen and above intel CPUs.

I managed to get Windows 10 to report a TPM 2.0 as present for my i5-7600K after a bit of fiddling about in the BIOS.

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#2768343 29-Aug-2021 13:23

^ it wont be an option for him. There's no PTT his platform.

MadEngineer:

No TPM, no PTT. Also, the 6600K isn't supported so you'll need to make use of workarounds such as 🔑 WinPass11 Guided Installer is a tool for installing Windows 11 on unsupported hardware through a walkthrough process. (reposhub.com)

Don't waste money on a TPM chip that's currently inflated to 10x the usual price. Better to save that money and put it towards a new PC.

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#2768359 29-Aug-2021 13:58

Reports this morning that there will be no security updates when "side loading" Windows 11 on unsupported hardware.

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#2768360 29-Aug-2021 14:00

mentalinc:

Reports this morning that there will be no security updates when "side loading" Windows 11 on unsupported hardware.

Finally some good news. Not having updates forced on us is a pro, not a con.

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#2768370 29-Aug-2021 14:17

SirHumphreyAppleby:

mentalinc:

Reports this morning that there will be no security updates when "side loading" Windows 11 on unsupported hardware.

Finally some good news. Not having updates forced on us is a pro, not a con.

That's the wrong approach. The updates are what keep the computers safe.

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#2768375 29-Aug-2021 14:26

Handle9:

Or just run Windows 10 until 2025. Is there a feature in Windows 11 you actually need?

My Widows PC (Laptop) will replaced well before 2025. On average I keep a Windows machine for three years. I am running Windows 11 on my Laptop but there is no features that would make it a must have for me And I would be fine running Windows 10 until replacement.

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#2768379 29-Aug-2021 14:36

MikeB4:

Handle9:

Or just run Windows 10 until 2025. Is there a feature in Windows 11 you actually need?

My Widows PC (Laptop) will replaced well before 2025. On average I keep a Windows machine for three years. I am running Windows 11 on my Laptop but there is no features that would make it a must have for me And I would be fine running Windows 10 until replacement.

Why replace a laptop that often? Seems a bit extravagant. What do you run that requires replacement so often? I certainly couldn't afford to do that privately nor justify it from a business point of view.

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#2768381 29-Aug-2021 14:38

https://www.engadget.com/microsoft-windows-11-updates-withheld-older-cpus-194632054.html

Purpose appears to be testing before new fleet hardware replacements etc for business.

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