[Annoy] What's something small that really annoys you?

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#2911818 9-May-2022 12:17

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'It's not you, it's your car': Vigilante climate group deflate SUV tyres across Auckland | Stuff.co.nz

Crimes Act 1961 No 43 (as at 28 September 2017), Public Act 226 Conversion of vehicle or other conveyance – New Zealand Legislation

Two years in prison will put an end to it. Not that anyone would get stung for that until they perhaps target the wrong vehicle that might otherwise be required for an emergence.

I would be prosecuted and probably given Home D for what I'd do to one of these climate "activists".

They don't stop and look at the bigger picture, they also willingly choose to slash or deflate tyres on electric SUV's because they haven't got the critical thinking skills to work out that it's not the size of the vehicle that counts, it's the total impact of fuel consumption, materials, manufacturing and usage.

Oh, there's also the fact that some people don't get a choice of vehicle - I have a company car - I don't get to choose what it is. The Fleet Manager does. Not my fault I drive a Hybrid SUV.

And then there's the downstream effect of what they do - slash tyres, cause a call-out from the AA. Now you have 2 vehicles on the road, one of which is likely to be a diesel ute (AA fleet) and then a perfectly good tyre that's been slashed will be replaced with a new tyre (or possibly multiples, if they've been particularly efficient with their slashing) and the old tyre will likely be deemed irreparably damaged, so straight to landfill. Brilliant.

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#2911831 9-May-2022 12:34

Handsomedan:

And then there's the downstream effect of what they do - slash tyres, cause a call-out from the AA. Now you have 2 vehicles on the road, one of which is likely to be a diesel ute (AA fleet) and then a perfectly good tyre that's been slashed will be replaced with a new tyre (or possibly multiples, if they've been particularly efficient with their slashing) and the old tyre will likely be deemed irreparably damaged, so straight to landfill. Brilliant.

Nowhere in the article did it mention slashing tyres - deflating, not slashing, was specifically stated in the reference tweet.

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#2911837 9-May-2022 13:17

Handsomedan:

I would be prosecuted and probably given Home D for what I'd do to one of these climate "activists".

They don't stop and look at the bigger picture, they also willingly choose to slash or deflate tyres on electric SUV's because they haven't got the critical thinking skills to work out that it's not the size of the vehicle that counts, it's the total impact of fuel consumption, materials, manufacturing and usage.

The political motivation is just a smokescreen. Anti-social behaviour like this is symptomatic of people being angry and disillusioned, and lacking the maturity and life skills to manage the problems in their lives, so their instinctive reaction is to lash out at everyone else around them. It's no different from the violent protest at parliament.

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#2911843 9-May-2022 13:37

cshwone:
Handsomedan:

And then there's the downstream effect of what they do - slash tyres, cause a call-out from the AA. Now you have 2 vehicles on the road, one of which is likely to be a diesel ute (AA fleet) and then a perfectly good tyre that's been slashed will be replaced with a new tyre (or possibly multiples, if they've been particularly efficient with their slashing) and the old tyre will likely be deemed irreparably damaged, so straight to landfill. Brilliant.

Nowhere in the article did it mention slashing tyres - deflating, not slashing, was specifically stated in the reference tweet.

Cool, so that makes it heaps better. When the woman in labour needs to get to the hospital, the old person needs to go to the doctor or other appointment, the already highly strung, stressed out worker needs to pick up the kids/milk/rubbish sticker/elderly relative, the person that needs to rush to their dying parent’s bedside - they discover that the “good guys” didn’t slash their tyre - they just deflated it. Actually they deflated more than one. Makes them feel much better.

There’s no justification for their actions. None. It’s vandalism and always has a downstream effect. Every single time.

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#2911844 9-May-2022 13:40

Handsomedan:

Cool, so that makes it heaps better. When the woman in labour needs to get to the hospital, the old person needs to go to the doctor or other appointment, the already highly strung, stressed out worker needs to pick up the kids/milk/rubbish sticker/elderly relative, the person that needs to rush to their dying parent’s bedside - they discover that the “good guys” didn’t slash their tyre - they just deflated it. Actually they deflated more than one. Makes them feel much better.

There’s no justification for their actions. None. It’s vandalism and always has a downstream effect. Every single time.

In those situations, I'd still rather have a flat tyre than a slashed one :)

Neither is good, and the behaviour is bad, but one is much worse than the other in my view.

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#2911847 9-May-2022 13:47

Increasingly there seems to be very little respect for the rule of law in NZ.

My own view is that much of that stems from the fact that punishment - if it occurs at all - is rarely particularly severe, ergo the consequences are not feared by the people who ought to fear them.

If your sentence was

A) 12 months of home detention spent playing with your PS5 and eating KFC

B) 5 years in a Thai style prison, sweating in 40 degree heat doing manual labour and living in a highly disciplined regime in basic accommodation with little access to amenities

which would cause you to think more about agreeing to go ram raiding with the local eejits?

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#2911852 9-May-2022 14:03

This is a complex issue, and whilst from the outside, it can look like punishments are lighter than they should be, many people rarely consider the consequences of their actions beyond a particular point. Places that have the death penalty are typically not significantly less likely to have murders happening for example (my stats on that are probably at least a few years old).

When the Anti Smacking bill came out, predictably stats on child deaths due to being beaten to death as a child didn't change much if at all, because people who totally lose their temper and beat a kid to death, or who systematically torture a kid to death over time, aren't thinking of the consequences at all. Seeing red and beating someone to death in rarely a pre-meditated action.

As a young person I drove my car frequently above the speed limit (much higher than I should have) and despite being told over and over again by people I loved and respected, about the consequences, it never really sunk in. Being pulled over 60 over the speed limit by the police was the thing that finally got it through my thick head. The punishment wasn't the issue, I was happy to pay my fine (though the fine paled in comparison to bearing the cost of alternative transport for 30 days and the horrible feeling at not being able to go wherever I wanted whenever I wanted).

I am just SO glad, that I got caught before I hurt someone.

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#2911866 9-May-2022 14:21

I think the fact that Thai style prisons exist at all sort of answers that point.

“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” -John Kenneth Galbraith

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#2911870 9-May-2022 14:30

I haven't seen it written down but I figure the justice system exists to, in no particular order:

rehabilitate offenders and prevent re-offending
penalise offenders
protect law-abiding public

Seems to me that at the moment, particularly where youg uns are concerned, they're achieving a 0 out of 3.

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#2911909 9-May-2022 14:35

Not forgetting of course that all the youth (and not so youthful) in this country that don't break the law don't make particularly good headlines / click-bait.

“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” -John Kenneth Galbraith

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#2911945 9-May-2022 16:18

networkn:
This is a complex issue, and whilst from the outside, it can look like punishments are lighter than they should be, many people rarely consider the consequences of their actions beyond a particular point. Places that have the death penalty are typically not significantly less likely to have murders happening for example (my stats on that are probably at least a few years old).

When the Anti Smacking bill came out, predictably stats on child deaths due to being beaten to death as a child didn't change much if at all, because people who totally lose their temper and beat a kid to death, or who systematically torture a kid to death over time, aren't thinking of the consequences at all. Seeing red and beating someone to death in rarely a pre-meditated action.

As a young person I drove my car frequently above the speed limit (much higher than I should have) and despite being told over and over again by people I loved and respected, about the consequences, it never really sunk in. Being pulled over 60 over the speed limit by the police was the thing that finally got it through my thick head. The punishment wasn't the issue, I was happy to pay my fine (though the fine paled in comparison to bearing the cost of alternative transport for 30 days and the horrible feeling at not being able to go wherever I wanted whenever I wanted).

I am just SO glad, that I got caught before I hurt someone.

If the penalty for speeding was 10 years hard labour on a mosquito infested island, living on bread and water, would you have considered the consequences more? I’m curious because I certainly would.

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#2911952 9-May-2022 16:42

Geektastic:
networkn:

This is a complex issue, and whilst from the outside, it can look like punishments are lighter than they should be, many people rarely consider the consequences of their actions beyond a particular point. Places that have the death penalty are typically not significantly less likely to have murders happening for example (my stats on that are probably at least a few years old).

When the Anti Smacking bill came out, predictably stats on child deaths due to being beaten to death as a child didn't change much if at all, because people who totally lose their temper and beat a kid to death, or who systematically torture a kid to death over time, aren't thinking of the consequences at all. Seeing red and beating someone to death in rarely a pre-meditated action.

As a young person I drove my car frequently above the speed limit (much higher than I should have) and despite being told over and over again by people I loved and respected, about the consequences, it never really sunk in. Being pulled over 60 over the speed limit by the police was the thing that finally got it through my thick head. The punishment wasn't the issue, I was happy to pay my fine (though the fine paled in comparison to bearing the cost of alternative transport for 30 days and the horrible feeling at not being able to go wherever I wanted whenever I wanted).

I am just SO glad, that I got caught before I hurt someone.

If the penalty for speeding was 10 years hard labour on a mosquito infested island, living on bread and water, would you have considered the consequences more? I’m curious because I certainly would.

Pah, should be 30 years and bulldoze their granny's house down, dont be a softy.

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#2911954 9-May-2022 16:57

Pah, should be 30 years and bulldoze their granny's house down, dont be a softy.

Whilst Granny was in it with her favourite cat!

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#2911959 9-May-2022 17:15

networkn:

Pah, should be 30 years and bulldoze their granny's house down, dont be a softy.

Whilst Granny was in it with her favourite cat!

Now you're talking !

Most of the posters in this thread are just like chimpanzees on MDMA, full of feelings of bonhomie, joy, and optimism. Fred99 8/4/21

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#2911962 9-May-2022 17:29

Geektastic:

If the penalty for speeding was 10 years hard labour on a mosquito infested island, living on bread and water, would you have considered the consequences more? I’m curious because I certainly would.

Probably not when you're 19 - don't think I would have even given it a second thought, although that was a very long time ago 😀

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