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#1380084 5-Sep-2015 08:06

The government will never do that (ban cycling on public roads)

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#1380101 5-Sep-2015 08:37

In fact the opposite is true, the government are actively finding ways to increase and promote cycling. We can't just keep putting more and more cars on the road. Car drivers need to remember that every cyclist is one less car in the que and one more carpark available. I bike when I can and drive when I can't. When biking I make use of the separated shared pathways wherever possible. If only we could get rid of those pesky slow walkers off the footpaths...

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#1380103 5-Sep-2015 08:50

If you don't have a few minutes to spare for the delays cyclists may impose on you over a whole trip, you certainly don't have time to particpate in long drawn out online discussions about them.

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#1380106 5-Sep-2015 09:06

Jase2985:
I ride the same roads, and there is not a single reason to ride out from the curb, they choose to because they think that are going to get a puncher, the roads here get swept at least every 2 months and there is little in the way of debris on the side of the road. Ive never had any issues.

In my days as a cyclist, I used to ride a metre or so out from the curb, especially where there was no shoulder. One reason I did that was because there were always drivers who would overtake with cm to spare, and this would give me a bit of a safety margin in case they misjudged it, or if there was some rubbish on the road. If I knew that all drivers would give me a metre, I'd be happy to ride closer to the curb.

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#1380115 5-Sep-2015 09:07

Are cyclists meant to follow the road rules when cycling on the road?

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#1380134 5-Sep-2015 09:46

gregmcc: Are cyclists meant to follow the road rules when cycling on the road?

Yes

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#1380139 5-Sep-2015 10:01

Everyone is at fault, its not a cycle, motorbike, car issue its a people issue. Cyclers should remain in single file, as close to the curb as is practical. My pet hate is the cyclers in spandex, two abreast, all over the road. Motorbikeers (I am one) that lane split in moving traffic, drivers that don't watch the road, or do a "yeah I can turn in front of you if I go fast"

There needs to be a rule that allows cyclers to cycle but share the road, giving them 1.5 metre clearance? Ok, if you build a road to support that.

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#1380193 5-Sep-2015 11:34

When I did a cycling safety course I was advised to ride one car door out from parked cars because of the risk of them being opened unexpectedly (which has happened to me quite a few times, especially around schools). Also, some cycle lanes are downright dangerous to cycle in. In my neighbourhood there are several that lead right in to parked cars so that you are forced to quickly join the traffic. There are also several pedestrian 'safety' features which force cyclists out into busy traffic.

I cycled to work in London, but wouldn't here because the roads a badly laid out and drivers are more impatient. So my car joins the thousands of others clogging up the Auckland roads every day. A good cycling policy would go a long way to fixing, or at least reducing that problem, but I can't see it happening any time soon. We just keep on building new roads.

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#1380213 5-Sep-2015 12:13

gregmcc: Are cyclists meant to follow the road rules when cycling on the road?

All road users have the same rules to follow

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#1380215 5-Sep-2015 12:17

blackjack17:
Yes cyclist break the law, I run red lights when it is safe, I do the same when I am running. I don't when I am driving. If I make a mistake while running or cycling I am the one that pays physically someone else might pay financially. If I make a mistake while driving other people pay physically while I suffer financially .

I am all for protecting cyclists rights, but that is just wrong.

I have hit a cyclist on my motorbike when he pulled out in front of me. I certainly paid physically for that cyclists decision.

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#1380216 5-Sep-2015 12:20

tdgeek: Motorbikeers (I am one) that lane split in moving traffic

Really? It's safer for the riders, and reduce congestions.

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/06/02/ama-study-finds-lane-splitting-increases-rider-saftey/

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#1380224 5-Sep-2015 13:07

Lias:
tdgeek: Motorbikeers (I am one) that lane split in moving traffic

Really? It's safer for the riders, and reduce congestions.

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/06/02/ama-study-finds-lane-splitting-increases-rider-saftey/

Lane splitting (if it includes overtaking on the left of moving traffic) is illegal, for both bicycles and motorbikes. Having said that, lane splitting is so common that I am surprised when a bicycle or motorbike stays in the middle of a lane in the general flow of traffic.

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#1380226 5-Sep-2015 13:12

I had some idiot cyclist kick my car when they decided to undertake a stationary line of traffic at stupid speed. Someone had left a gap for me to pull out of a side road turning left into traffic, and while I am doing that the muppet comes flying down on the inside of all the stopped/barely moving cars and has to suddenly stop. Kicked my back bumper scratching it some more and then road off.

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#1380229 5-Sep-2015 13:22

Ouranos:
Lias:
tdgeek: Motorbikeers (I am one) that lane split in moving traffic

Really? It's safer for the riders, and reduce congestions.

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/06/02/ama-study-finds-lane-splitting-increases-rider-saftey/

Lane splitting (if it includes overtaking on the left of moving traffic) is illegal, for both bicycles and motorbikes. Having said that, lane splitting is so common that I am surprised when a bicycle or motorbike stays in the middle of a lane in the general flow of traffic.

There is a difference between lane splitting (with traffic at speed) and lane filtering (traffic very slow or stopped). The former is highly dangerous for the motorcyclist and other road users, the latter is an effective traffic management technique that benefits all road users when executed safely. Here is Victoria AU, it's technically not legal to 'filter', but a blind eye is turned unless you do something dumb (I've filtered past many a cop car and they don't bat an eyelid). In NSW, they recently made it legal providing traffic is stationary or under 25km/h

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#1380232 5-Sep-2015 13:26

jmh: Also, some cycle lanes are downright dangerous to cycle in.

If there are obstructions in the lane report them. It's illegal to obstruct them and things can be done.

In my neighbourhood there are several that lead right in to parked cars so that you are forced to quickly join the traffic. There are also several pedestrian 'safety' features which force cyclists out into busy traffic.

You need to slow the hell down then! You use the word 'force' as if there is someone standing there ready to shove you into the path of coming traffic. Stop if you have to, and merge when it's safe to do so. It's a bit like complaining that when two lanes merge on the motorway you have to slow your car down.

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