So can somebody please tell me whats the difference between my ISP providing this service (block porn) or a thirdparty?

Currently I have to pay my ISP to receive Porn which I really don't want.

Then to make things worse, I have to pay a third party to block out this porn (which I can't opt out of) from my ISP.

It makes sense to do this at the ISP level.

Thise that still want porn, well they can simply "opt in" to receive it. I seriously don't understand the problem here.

Inphinity: The cost and effort of implementing and maintaining a system that only a small portion of users will use, and of those that do, a large percentage will complain about because it will NOT be 100%, is not worthwhile when it is not your core business. Why does NZ Post not have someone stand at your mailbox and prevent junk mail being put in?

Klipspringer:

CYaBro:

Klipspringer:

The bottom line here is that I would rather not have to do
it myself. I’m quiet happy to hand this over to my ISP.

http://www.watchdog.net.nz/

So can somebody please tell me whats the difference between my ISP providing this service (block porn) or a thirdparty?

Currently I have to pay my ISP to receive Porn which I really don't want.

Then to make things worse, I have to pay a third party to block out this porn (which I can't opt out of) from my ISP.

It makes sense to do this at the ISP level.

Those that still want porn, well they can simply "opt in" to receive it. I seriously don't understand the problem here.

wasabi2k: As a step-parent to a 14 year old and someone who was a teenager with internet access - why do you want to prevent them looking at porn?

I totally understand little kids not being exposed to stuff, but your kid shouldn't be using the internet unsupervised before 12-13 in my opinion.

Censorship of the internet is not a good thing.

surfisup1000: [snip]

This is a good thing, to block accidental and basic attempts by curious children to find porn.   [snip]

surfisup1000:And, they can just go over to their friends house and you have no idea if they supervise internet access. So, an ISP block sounds more encompassing to me.  

wasabi2k: I have to say I am mightily surprised by some of the attitudes in here.

Filtering Porn on the internet will do next to NOTHING to "save the children", "protect innocence" etc etc etc.


I really fail to understand this dread of porn. Viewing it is not going to turn your child into a pervert or axe murderer.

 

surfisup1000:
Google "harmful effects of porn on children".  So, yes it does have a harmful effect on children. 

ISP filtering porn on the internet will prevent a child looking for pictures of pussycats finding out a lot more about the world than they expected (this did happen to a friend of ours). 

Talkiet:
If you don't get it, I would suggest you are wilfully ignoring logic.

You are not paying your ISP to receive porn. That's an inaccurate and emotive statement.

You are paying your ISP for a relatively unfiltered internet feed.

You are also expected to pay SOMEONE if you want SOMEONE to perform filtering on your internet feed. It takes them design time, extra overheads, extra equipment costs etc to manage this.

Stop suggesting that 'opting-in' to get porn is reasonable. It's a stupid idea.

Klipspringer:

Talkiet:
If you don't get it, I would suggest you are wilfully ignoring logic.

You are not paying your ISP to receive porn. That's an inaccurate and emotive statement.

You are paying your ISP for a relatively unfiltered internet feed.

You are also expected to pay SOMEONE if you want SOMEONE to perform filtering on your internet feed. It takes them design time, extra overheads, extra equipment costs etc to manage this.

Stop suggesting that 'opting-in' to get porn is reasonable. It's a stupid idea.

I think you missing my point.

I pay for internet, and then I have to subscribe to a thirdparty service, or install special software etc to keep my kids safe on the web ...

Fine. I have no hassles with that.

You just seem to not like the idea of the ISP taking over this service? Why must I buy separate software? Why must I pay a third party? Surely its easier for this to be handled and maintained my the ISP.

Thats my point.

"opting in" to get porn is just as reasonable as being able to "opt out"

Klipspringer:

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Surely its easier for this to be handled and maintained my the ISP.

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"opting in" to get porn is just as reasonable as being able to "opt out"

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Klipspringer: [snip]

You just seem to not like the idea of the ISP taking over this service? Why must I buy separate software? Why must I pay a third party? Surely its easier for this to be handled and maintained my the ISP.

Thats my point.

"opting in" to get porn is just as reasonable as being able to "opt out"

ubergeeknz:

Klipspringer:

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Surely its easier for this to be handled and maintained my the ISP.

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"opting in" to get porn is just as reasonable as being able to "opt out"

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The problem being, no matter how many times you say those things, it doesn't make them any more true.