Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#1669963 13-Nov-2016 11:13

Rikkitic:

I wonder if Americans will enjoy their three times more expensive half as reliable poor fuel economy made in USA death traps?

Well they certainly won't be built here but the UK would have a good chance to pick up some extra work.

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#1669964 13-Nov-2016 11:14

Rikkitic:

I wonder if Americans will enjoy their three times more expensive half as reliable poor fuel economy made in USA death traps?

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#1669965 13-Nov-2016 11:17

Hey that was a classic...

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#1669967 13-Nov-2016 11:22

As for Obamacare (or more appropriately Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act), here's one definition:

The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), commonly called the Affordable Care Act (ACA) or Obamacare, is a United States federal statute enacted by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010. Together with the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act amendment, it represents the most significant regulatory overhaul of the U.S. healthcare system since the passage of Medicare and Medicaid in 1965. Under the act, hospitals and primary physicians would transform their practices financially, technologically, and clinically to drive better health outcomes, lower costs, and improve their methods of distribution and accessibility.

The Affordable Care Act was intended to increase health insurance quality and affordability, lower the uninsured rate by expanding insurance coverage and reduce the costs of healthcare. It introduced mechanisms including mandates, subsidies and insurance exchanges. The law requires insurers to accept all applicants, cover a specific list of conditions and charge the same rates regardless of pre-existing conditions or sex. In 2011, the Congressional Budget Office projected that the ACA would lower future deficits and Medicare spending.

The law and its implementation faced challenges in Congress and federal courts, and from some state governments, conservative advocacy groups, labor unions, and small business organizations. The United States Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the ACA's individual mandate as an exercise of Congress's taxing power, that states cannot be forced to participate in the ACA's Medicaid expansion, and that the law's subsidies to help individuals pay for health insurance are available in all states, not just in those that have set up state exchanges.

In March 2015, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that the average number of uninsured during the period from January to September 2014 was 11.4 million fewer than the average in 2010. In April 2016, Gallup reported that the percentage of adults who were uninsured dropped from 18% in the third quarter of 2013 to 11% in the first quarter of 2016.

The general population has more healthcare now than ever, more of this general population is insured but they still make it a bogeyman act.

They probably rather pay expensive premiums, or not have insurance at all.

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#1669969 13-Nov-2016 11:25

cynnicallemon:

Rikkitic:

I wonder if Americans will enjoy their three times more expensive half as reliable poor fuel economy made in USA death traps?

Well they certainly won't be built here but the UK would have a good chance to pick up some extra work.

Given their very cheap petrol prices, who cares if the fuel economy is bad?

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#1669971 13-Nov-2016 11:28

freitasm:

As for Obamacare (or more appropriately Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act), here's one definition:

The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), commonly called the Affordable Care Act (ACA) or Obamacare, is a United States federal statute enacted by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010. Together with the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act amendment, it represents the most significant regulatory overhaul of the U.S. healthcare system since the passage of Medicare and Medicaid in 1965. Under the act, hospitals and primary physicians would transform their practices financially, technologically, and clinically to drive better health outcomes, lower costs, and improve their methods of distribution and accessibility.

The Affordable Care Act was intended to increase health insurance quality and affordability, lower the uninsured rate by expanding insurance coverage and reduce the costs of healthcare. It introduced mechanisms including mandates, subsidies and insurance exchanges. The law requires insurers to accept all applicants, cover a specific list of conditions and charge the same rates regardless of pre-existing conditions or sex. In 2011, the Congressional Budget Office projected that the ACA would lower future deficits and Medicare spending.

The law and its implementation faced challenges in Congress and federal courts, and from some state governments, conservative advocacy groups, labor unions, and small business organizations. The United States Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the ACA's individual mandate as an exercise of Congress's taxing power, that states cannot be forced to participate in the ACA's Medicaid expansion, and that the law's subsidies to help individuals pay for health insurance are available in all states, not just in those that have set up state exchanges.

In March 2015, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that the average number of uninsured during the period from January to September 2014 was 11.4 million fewer than the average in 2010. In April 2016, Gallup reported that the percentage of adults who were uninsured dropped from 18% in the third quarter of 2013 to 11% in the first quarter of 2016.

The general population has more healthcare now than ever, more of this general population is insured but they still make it a bogeyman act.

They probably rather pay expensive premiums, or not have insurance at all.

Based on conversations I had with Americans about that, they would rather not pay for OTHER PEOPLE to have insurance. Americans generally believe in looking after yourself and your family through your own efforts, not relying on other people's taxes to cover it for you. Probably why so many NZers seem to have trouble understanding the motivation behind some things that happen there.

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#1669972 13-Nov-2016 11:28

Fuel prices could be crucial if you still drove an Edsel

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#1669995 13-Nov-2016 12:45

Geektastic:

cynnicallemon:

Rikkitic:

I wonder if Americans will enjoy their three times more expensive half as reliable poor fuel economy made in USA death traps?

Well they certainly won't be built here but the UK would have a good chance to pick up some extra work.

Given their very cheap petrol prices, who cares if the fuel economy is bad?

Well they'll either have to care or they'll have to repeal/abandon the "CAFE" standards (for Corporate Average Fuel Economy) which runs through to 2025.

Not that they'd have any problem doing that of course.

The new redneck economy will be demanding yuge pickups with inbuilt holders for confederate flags and cages on the back in which to transport the Mexican rapists that good citizens will be arresting and throwing over the wall.

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#1669997 13-Nov-2016 12:55

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Fred99:

<snip>

Americans love the elites. FFS - they don't have native royalty, so spend the last 1/2 century creating royalty out of Kennedys and Clintons, Kardashians - and now, unfortunately, Trumps.

The Trump royal family are sitting around the throne, appointed by King Donald I of America to official duties.

It's an incredibly surreal spectacle. But it is real.

I'm sure he'll dress up for his ~~inauguration~~ coronation.

I wonder whether Princess Chelsea of the House of Clinton will be seated near to her friend, Princess Ivanka of the House of Trump?

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#1670000 13-Nov-2016 13:13

cynnicallemon:

Fred99:

I suggest you wait - you might be able to buy a US made GM or Ford that are going to be made in America, by Americans, for the people of America.

Or you could just buy a Volkswagen.

:-)

Would that be a VW made in Mexico?

Or, would that be one made in Germany by low paid Syrian migrants?

Have you visited a German auto company in Germany?

I suspect not from your comment, as the workers are rather well paid, have extremely good working conditions, leave entitlements, a very generous welfare state to fall back on if luck doesn't go their way, and representation on the boards of the companies they work for. Some "German Germans" work in the factories.

Yet despite these massive handicaps, they somehow manage to turn out cars of rather good quality, with efficiency. Even Trump thinks so apparently - he owns a few.

If Trump's planned reforms of the US auto industry which he claims are to benefit US workers came even close to that, why even I might change my mind to become a Trump fan.

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#1670013 13-Nov-2016 13:16

I wonder if they are still friends. Trump said some pretty hard things about her mother.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#1670014 13-Nov-2016 13:18

I wonder if Trump's USA cars will also fiddle their emissions figures.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#1670015 13-Nov-2016 13:18

Rikkitic:

I wonder if they are still friends. Trump said some pretty hard things about her mother.

Yes they will be. George RR Martin's server was hacked - the full script for next season is posted on Reddit.

Edit - oh dear, I thought I was being original there, but was gazumped by George himself:

"Over the next four years, our problems are going to get much, much worse," he wrote. "Winter is coming. I told you so."

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#1670018 13-Nov-2016 13:25

Rikkitic:

I wonder if Trump's USA cars will also fiddle their emissions figures.

You'll never know. Trump is "draining the swamp" and closing down the EPA.

Wall street can't wait.

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#1670021 13-Nov-2016 13:34

Fred99:
Rikkitic:

I wonder if they are still friends. Trump said some pretty hard things about her mother.

<spoiler alert>

Yes they will be. George RR Martin's server was hacked - the full script for next season is posted on Reddit.

Edit - oh dear, I thought I was being original there, but was gazumped by George himself:

"Over the next four years, our problems are going to get much, much worse," he wrote. "Winter is coming. I told you so."

Damn, you made me look and I found this:
https://youtu.be/lle4t4o8EDk

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