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TeaLeaf
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  #3287739 29-Sep-2024 18:21
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So the Harvard Fall Survey for young voters is out. https://iop.harvard.edu/youth-poll/48th-edition-fall-2024

Her gap didnt change +31pt.

 

But the amount did with now 64%, why this may spell more votes even though the same support gap between Harris and Trump, is the ever increasing "enthusiasm" advantage, with 74$ of young Democrats saying they will definitely vote to the 60% for Republicans.

So I did have total numbers expected to vote worked out but I closed my math before saving. But least to say is, it is highly likely the momentum among young democrats is really strong and their numbers will make a difference. It a largely under reported "number" for the Swing states. 

So with early voting, I didnt know this, but the parties can see where the numbers are landing and so Im lead to believe their strategists make last minute adjustments at a certain point of clarity.

Lots of interesting stats in there, the gender gap one widening so much I didnt expect.

Proj 2025 being rejected by both sides was good to see, but still dont get why if you know its bad for your future why you would still vote for it, might be a twist in the stat with another etc.

 

The positive meme impact stat for Harris vs the negative for Trump is showing the risky strategy with Tikitok presence etc paying off.

So with polls the last couple of days we have had some outliers swing the avgs a bit with NYT/Sienna and Fox news polls both being known for leaning red historically. I have no issue with that as plenty enough lean slightly blue too. 

Still Razor thin lead for Harris, but you could also say some razor thin avgs for Trump which if break Blue will likely seal things snuggly. But the blue wall has to hold, but with so many in play the pathway for victory could be very different. If Harris picks up Georgia (there today) and NC, both are 16EV, quite the buffer if Wisconsin does a random and breaks Red, But arizona with Nevada is a nice 11+ 6 combination could be useful..

and then there is the chance they all break blue causing an unexpected landslide. But Im still mentally preparing for a Trump win, just in case. 




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  #3287773 29-Sep-2024 20:10
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Re the polling, while it's nice to see Harris ahead in a lot of ways, I just have a creeping dread in the back of my head that it's going to be like 2016 all over again 😕

 


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  #3287778 29-Sep-2024 20:41
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quickymart:

 

Re the polling, while it's nice to see Harris ahead in a lot of ways, I just have a creeping dread in the back of my head that it's going to be like 2016 all over again 😕

 

 

I know what you mean, but Clinton didnt get the Grass Roots Campaign organised and funded like Harris has, and she got a dodgy October surprise

BREAKING: Trump hit with pre-election SURPRISE in court

 

We just dont know who has the larger turn out where it matters, but Im confident Harris has a lot of stuff organised leading up to vote day. 

Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump: tracking the 2024 US presidential advertising battle (ft.com)

 

right now she is spending near double on ads. But people are unsure if they work.

Its what happens after if it turns out a close election that worries me.

also if they win Vance will be not far away from the least trusted president in US histoy (i think, certainly recent times). 




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  #3288048 30-Sep-2024 11:09
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Warning: coarse language:

 

 

Otherwise, fairly accurate.


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  #3288077 30-Sep-2024 11:50
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The Washington Post - Opinion - The Harris-Trump election shouldn’t be close. Here’s why it is.

 

29 Sep 2024

 


It is absolutely, completely, totally ridiculous that this election is even close. ...

 

So how is it possible that this is not a done deal? I’m not sure there’s a definitive answer, but I can throw out a few theories. ...

 

  • One obvious potential factor is that Harris would be the first woman to serve as president and commander in chief. ...

  • White voters without a college degree * are a key component of Trump’s base, and two recent polls showed Harris with a huge deficit of roughly 35 points to Trump among this segment. ... 

Still, though, how does any of this overcome Trump’s manifest unfitness? How does any of it erase his pathetic performance in the debate?
How does it nullify the fact that he awaits sentencing by a New York judge after 34 guilty verdicts in a criminal trial?

If the answer is buried somewhere in some poll, I can’t find it.

 

 

*  Whites without a college degree make up 42 percent of the electorate.





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  #3288185 30-Sep-2024 13:56
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Trump continues his latest nastiness:

 

[url=]The Independent[/url]: Donald Trump repeated his “mentally impaired” attack on Vice President Kamala Harris at a rally in Pennsylvania on Sunday, even after multiple Republicans rebuked the rhetoric. The former president told a crowd of supporters, again, that Harris was “born mentally impaired” – the same line Trump used during a “dark” rally speech just one day earlier.

 

Completely unexplainable and stupid unless you attribute this to extreme racist views inherited from his father.


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  #3288244 30-Sep-2024 15:06
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May he continue digging his hole. Don't do anything to dissuade him.

 

 





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  #3288268 30-Sep-2024 16:24
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gzt:

 

Trump continues his latest nastiness:

 

 

I think from watching it he referred to Biden first then said Harris was mentally disabled from birth, or words close to that. Which of course has upset disability groups but honestly, nothing comes of such low class trash talking, other than hopefully some voters fixing their undecided vote on Harris. 

 

Its going to be tight and whoever wins we could see challenges and who knows what from maga,

 

Two straight days of outlier polls leaning red/right, but I think its down to what she says now. She has gone for the first time in the lead in polls with the "economy", great news but has to do more softball interviews on Economy/Border. The other is turning the narraive on the border back to the reality which is Trump is the OG Border Tzar. He did nothing from 16-24 other than squash a border policy which was the toughest possibly in US history. But it also was going to use new technology for catching opioid drug smuggling. So, Trump in effect she could suggest is to blame for all the ODs from drugs crossing the border during that time period. Get all over TV talking about not just his failed promises in his Term, but squashing this life saving bill (make it not just about turning people away but cost to public health caused by him). Its time to start saying it with plain english. 


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  #3288351 30-Sep-2024 18:37
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Saw this in Wellington today:

 





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  #3288353 30-Sep-2024 18:54
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freitasm:

 

Saw this in Wellington today:

 

 

 

 

LOVE IT - Love It - love it 🤣





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  #3288373 30-Sep-2024 19:29
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freitasm:

 

Saw this in Wellington today:

 

 

That's good! I saw a similar one in the wake of January 6:

 


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  #3288383 30-Sep-2024 20:27
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Very scary post from Trump very widely posted across social media, and reposted by many Christian Nationalists.

"Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the Devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly hosts, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan, and all the evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen."

It's the prayer to Saint Michael the Archangel, often referred to as the "St. Michael Prayer" was composed by Pope Leo XIII in 1886.

The pope claimed to see a vision of demonic forces and heard a conversation between Jesus and Satan, which deeply disturbed him.

It was added to Low Masses (more common on weekdays and for smaller gatherings). The prayer was dropped in 1964 as it was considered old-fashioned and aggressive.

See related article from The Atlantic"How Extremist Gun Culture Is Trying to Co-opt the Rosary"


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  #3288384 30-Sep-2024 20:32
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kingdragonfly: "Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. [blah blah blah-blah blah blah] the ruin of souls. Amen." - Pope Leo XIII, 1886.

 

"Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now" - Elwood Blues, 1980.

 

Much catchier.


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  #3288406 1-Oct-2024 07:47
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neb:

 

kingdragonfly: "Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. [blah blah blah-blah blah blah] the ruin of souls. Amen." - Pope Leo XIII, 1886.

 

"Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now" - Elwood Blues, 1980.

 

Much catchier.

 

 

 

 

I'll admit I was impressed he could keep his attention from wandering long enough to cut and paste the entire thing.





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  #3288690 1-Oct-2024 15:57
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Trump meandering story interrupted by a bug.

He starts a entirely new story and struggles with the word “unique.”

Posters of migrants who have been charged with murder and other violent crimes surrounded Trump on stage. Some of them read: “End Migrant Crime” and “Deport Illegals Now.” He referred to those who had been charged as “monsters,” “stone-cold killers” and “vile animals.”

Trump: "Remember there's a hat that selling like crazy.

Oh look, a fly. Oh. I wonder where the fly came from?

See: two years ago I wouldn't have had a fly up here!

You’re changing rapidly. We can’t take it any longer."


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